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Florida Gorgonian Garden

This tank has been on the drawing board for quite some time as I came up with my ideal system, one that would still be small enough to throw in the back of the car and move if necessary. Imagine my surprise shortly after buying the tank to find that there was a new competition running, and I was already planning a tank that would fit right in!

The focus of this tank will be a habitat display consisting of shallow water soft corals that could be found together on a mixed hard and sandy bottom in southern Florida. Some of the feature organisms will include: photosynthetic gorgonians, Florida ricordea, Florida zoanthids, Florida corallimorphs, and macro algae. Things that I don’t plan to add to the tank, but still want to encourage the growth of include filter feeding organisms like sponges and tube worms that are very common there. To that end, this will be a heavily fed tank with heavy nutrient export capacity and high water motion. Bright light would also be typical for this environment. Most of the tank inhabitants will be coming from collectors in the Keys, and the bulk will be filled in with animals from other sites in the Caribbean whenever possible.

Entry Photo



Tank
10 gallon AGA

Lighting
20” 70 watt Sunpod metal halide system

Circulation and Filtration
Nano Remora with MaxiJet 900
Aquaclear 50, filled with LR rubble and as a space for chemical filtration
Closed Loop System with SCWD, powered by another MaxiJet 900

Temperature Control
Jager 50 watt heater (if necessary)
Desk fan blowing across surface of aquarium (if necessary)
Chiller (if necessary!)

Livestock
I’ve been planning the upgrade to a habitat-specific 10 gallon tank for quite some time, so I already have many of the life forms that will go into this tank. This is a rough outline of what I already have, and some planned additions.

10 lbs. aquacultured Florida live rock
Unknown amount of indo-pacific liverock (as needed)
Deep sand bed for macros and mantis shrimp
Orange sea rod, Muricea elongata
Purple sea plume, Pseudopterogorgia spp.
Yellow sea whip, Pterogorgia citrina
Florida ricordea, Ricordea florida
Atlantic zoanthids
White encrusting zoanthid, Palythoa caribeaorum
Bubble mushroom, Discosoma sanctithomae
Discosoma carlgreni
Harlequin serpent star, Ophioderma appressum
Porcelain crabs, Petrolisthes spp.
Rainbow mantis, Pseudosquilla ciliate
Astrea snails
Cerith snails
Nerite snails
Sabellid hitchhikers
Serpulid hitchhikers
Sponge hitchhikers
Bivalve hitchhikers (including two Atlantic thorny oysters smaller than a pencil eraser)
Halimeda algae
Other macroalgae

The mantis shrimp is a spearing species that should be uninterested in eating my invertebrates. I don’t plan on adding it until I am mostly done aquascaping the tank, and I’m not entirely sure I will be able to find one of the right species by the end of competition.

There are some other animals I’d like to eventually add that probably won’t be added within the span of the competition. This includes challenging filter feeders like flame scallops, Christmas tree worms, and sponges. Many of these are common to abundant in southern Florida waters, and are favorite organisms of mine, but I’m hesitant to add them without serious consideration first. I plan on watching the filter feeders that have hitchhiked in over a year or so and seeing how they do in my tank before intentionally adding any more, especially since husbandry of these animals is iffy. If similar animals already in the tank show growth and reproduction, I’ll consider adding some of these trickier animals. And it will give me time to decide if I want to try to find a collector who offers Florida Christmas tree worms, of if I’ll go in for the almost-identical indo-pacific Christmas tree worms, typically offered already embedded in Porites coral.

More to follow smile.gif
RayWhisperer
Welcome to the contest!
Sounds great.
Rene
Thanks!

This contest seems like it has some of the most creative and interesting tanks yet. I can't wait for things to really get going!
lgreen
Very unique. I like it.
ChrisS
Sweet. I love gorgs and have thought about a gorg dominated tank.
I'm excited to see how this turns out.
Rene
Heh. Looking into the 5.5, where most of the livestock has been since March, it's looking more like a ricordea-and-zoanthid-tank. Hopefully a new aquascape will give me a chance to place the gorgs for better effect. They're sort of stuffed wherever they will fit right now where the flow is high, which means behind the rockwork next to the filter outputs.

I really like them because they're different, but one thing I've found since I've had them is that even for photosynthetic ones, feeding seems to be a must. I had some tissue recession before I started feeding the tank heavily. Since then, I've seen them all encrust nicely around their bases and show some new branch growth.

All that feeding hasn't been so great for maintain "clean" looking rocks though tongue.gif Hopefully, a protein skimmer will make a difference there.
lgreen
QUOTE(Rene @ Oct 18 2006, 09:26 PM) *
Hopefully, a protein skimmer will make a difference there.


Perhaps. Adding a refugium w/ macro algae would absorb nutrients and provide the ideal habitat for zooplankton and phytoplankton populations that could naturally feed your gorgs. It is pretty easy to make a hang-on-back refugium using pretty much any hang on back power filter and a small lamp.
sleepy
How much did that MH system cost you? Looks identical to my 80 watt PC fixture.
lgreen
^cheapest I've seen was like $220-230. Someone mentioned a 30% off coupon for thatfishplace, but I couldn't find it. If you could find the coupon, it would make it like $170!
Rene
Lgreen is right on the pricing. I got mine from my LFS, so naturally it was more expensive than an online source, but ended up being about the same since I didn't have to pay shipping.

I am using a hob filter as a refugium, but the jury is still out on whether or not I'm going to throw some chaeto in there. I've done it before and liked it. Worked great for nutrient export, which will be valuable if I don't want fast-growing macro in the display. It does culture different sized micro-inverts than rubble.

It's a good idea. I just haven't decided yet what to do with all the rubble I've collected over the years. If I'm lucky, the light spill-over from the halide will be enough to grow chaeto pretty well. It's grown nicely for me in pretty dim light before.
Daemonfly
SCWD with a MJ 900? Seems like that would have a very long cycle time, almost to the point of being, well, pointless. I could be wrong though.

MJ900 = 230gph stock
Add to this flow restriction from plumbing, and you're looking at probably somewhere around 18-20+ second cycles. Also, you wouldn't get much flow out of the system due to the large losses from the scwd itself.

I'd go with a larger pump.
Rene
QUOTE(Daemonfly @ Oct 19 2006, 12:33 AM) *
I'd go with a larger pump.


Yeah, it's a long cycle time. It starts switching over at about 12 seconds, and finished at 15 seconds. And that was a test in a bucket before adding in the plumbing. I had the MJ 900 already, so I figured I'd use it.

If I were to switch pumps, any suggestions for a quiet pump brand that doesn't dump heat into the water? What about flow rates?
Rene
huh.gif CLS update

Most of the plumbing for the CLS is already done, I just hadn’t gotten around to posting pictures of it.



I’m still waiting on hose clamps to finish this. The aquaclear filter/fuge will sit in the big space next to the remora, and the whole system rests on a shelf I got from Lowes which is attached to the tank stand. To position inlet and outlet pipes where I wanted them, I used little spare bits of tubing propped against the aquarium.

This is the first time I’ve tried to DYI any plumbing, and I’m fairly happy with how it came out. But there are a few concerns:

*leaks/microbubbles. I figure hose clamps should take care of this.
*not easy to take apart for maintenance: I have no check valves, so I’ll have to disassemble the whole thing to clean anything. On the bright side, it’ll give me an opportunity to clean the thing out with pipe brushes.
*not easy to prime the pump: to do that, I plan on yanking out the inlet (far left) and using a funnel to pour water into the tubing. I’ll put the inlet back on, clamp, and be ready to go. Hopefully.
*not enough flow: there’s some concern that with restrictions due to elbows, the SCWD, and pipe diameter, this won’t provide the flow I’d hoped for. I’m a little stumped as to what to do about this just now without tearing the whole thing down and starting over. It would be great if I could find a more powerful pump of similar size with the same/similar inlet-outlet hose sizes.



On the other hand, it does look pretty sleek. The soft tubing should cut down on noise. And once the pump is primed, the whole thing should run without issues until I need to clean it. I think I can live with most of the limitations of this design, with the possible exception of not enough flow. The current pump is a MJ900, 230gph. Any suggestions for a pump upgrade, folks?

In other news, I’m definitely going to need a chiller. I don’t know what I was thinking…ambient temps in my apartment are unpredictably warm, often around 81 or 82 degrees. With the lights off in the 5.5, which has two aquaclear filters, tank temp can hit 84 if I’m not watching it. I have fans on the tank, but no easy way to control them since the tank temp is dependant on ambient temp, so I scramble to turn them on and off manually as temperature in the room changes.

Take into account the halide lights close to the water, and the maxijet powering the skimmer, and I think there’s little doubt I’m going to need a chiller on this tank to maintain stable temperatures.
SaVeThEeELs
QUOTE(Rene @ Oct 19 2006, 12:49 PM) *
huh.gif CLS update
Take into account the halide lights close to the water, and the maxijet powering the skimmer, and I think there’s little doubt I’m going to need a chiller on this tank to maintain stable temperatures.


buy a fan......i find that small systems absorb heat alot quicker...

as far as your set up, its breath taking......LOL happy45.gif good job so far!,
is that a uv sterilizer??

as far as a pump...bump it up to 500gph if its in your budget....what brand?? depends on what you wanna spend.....if you buy something cheap, chances are it was cheaply made
RayWhisperer
Rene, Ehiem pumps are quiet, and don't produce too much heat. They are a bit pricey though.

If you get a chiller, and have the space, I'd go with a mag 5.
jeremai
I have a Mag5 running through the chiller on my 10g... holy moses, is that a lot of flow. I had to put a spray bar across the front and one side to even it out. smile.gif

As long as you stick with smaller-polyped gorgonians, a Mag5 would be perfect for this tank.
Rene
QUOTE(jeremai @ Oct 19 2006, 07:20 PM) *
I have a Mag5 running through the chiller on my 10g... holy moses, is that a lot of flow. I had to put a spray bar across the front and one side to even it out. smile.gif

As long as you stick with smaller-polyped gorgonians, a Mag5 would be perfect for this tank.


Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I'm seriously considering the Hydor Seltz L35 (450gph) as a replacement for the MaxiJet. Research today pulled up a bunch of great feedback on it...if you want to count overclocked computer case cooling, that is laugh.gif And it comes with attachments to fit it to 1/2" tubing. Bonus.

Eheim pumps have good reviews but the things are just too big and heavy for the shelf on the back of my tank. Bleh.

Jeremai, your Mag5 doesn't leak? I heard they're not supposed to be used externally, so I wasn't considering the Mags.

I used the head calculator on reef central to work out what my final output pressure would be with a Mag5 on the CLS, and it'd be around 350-400gph at least, switching about, oh, every six seconds. Almost too much flow? I imagine the gorgs would love it, but I'm not sure the ricordea and mushrooms would be thrilled.

I flip-flopped again and I'm going to at least give my big desk fan a try before hemmoraging money on a chiller. If I do get one, I'm looking into the current prime nano chiller.
Charlie97L
rene-

do you mind sharing some of your gorg sources... (not for my entry!!) i have 1 in my main tank, and i'm looking for some more. you can pm me if you'd like.

smile.gif if not, no worries.

lookin great!
jeremai
Rene, Mag5's tend to leak when the case has been overtightened after servicing, as often it cracks the case so it won't seal properly. I'm not having any trouble with mine.

Also, the output of a Mag5 on a closed loop is 500gph - closed loops do not have head pressure. smile.gif
Rene
Well, not much to update. I decided to go with the Hydor L35 pump, and it should be here midweek. The hose clamps for the plumbing literally just got here, so budgeting time for another trip to Lowes to get some extra CPVC 45 degree elbows, plumbing may be done by the end of the week. I hope to start leak and heat testing it by the weekend. Fingers crossed!

QUOTE(jeremai @ Oct 22 2006, 10:06 PM) *
Also, the output of a Mag5 on a closed loop is 500gph - closed loops do not have head pressure. smile.gif


Good to know! I've seen a lot of folks use Mags externally. If I have to get a chiller, I may give a Mag a try as my water pump.

SaVeThEeELs: No, there is no UV sterilizer in this system. I think maybe what you're seeing is the SCWD. The black thing in the center of the photo with the three ports is a wave making device. The big black box on the right side of the photo is the skimmer.
Charlie97L
rene, i sent you a PM.

looking great. i'm trying to figure out how to get a back and forth going in my tank... yours is looking excellent!
distantfire
Hi Rene your setup is starting to take shape. The only thing I would change is the clear 3/4" ID hose line. Because algae grow's inside of it where ever light is present. And the algae will plug up that clear hose line enough to slow down your water flow. Since your shoping for a better pump anyway. You might as well get some 3/4" ID black hose line. Good Luck
Rene
A Month of Plumbing

Since October, I’ve been struggling to get this tank plumbed. What’s so difficult, you ask? I’ve never done it before, and everything I came up with leaked.

I swapped out the maxi-jet pump for a hydor L35, which has about 450 gph of flow. I plumbed it into my soft plumbing…and almost every single CPVC elbow I was using leaked badly. Oops! I guess that’s what hosebarb fittings are for. I’d just slid the soft tubing over the elbows and figured it looked tight enough. Guess not. No amount of hose clamps would fix this either.

So I decided to try again with hosebarb fittings. While I was at it, I figured I’d go all out and make a hard PVC plumbing setup that should be more durable, allow me to prime the loop easily, and let me take the pump off for cleaning.

I spent most of a morning putting it all together and it wasn’t as hard as I expected.



On the left and right at the top you can see the flared diffusers which connect with soft tubing. The tall PVC on the left with the gray nozzle is the intake, and the bit of pipe above that is for priming the system. The black oval thing on the right is the SCWD. You can see one side of the PVC is a little heavy, so I simply propped it up with another piece of PVC.

This too leaked.

Oh, my pipe welds held beautifully. It was that @$%&! vinyl tubing again. The junctions around the SCWD just would not hold. I was at a loss. I had three hose clamps on each one, I used hose barbs, I propped them up so the vinyl wasn’t supporting weight. I could not get it to stop leaking.

Totally dejected now, I realized it’d been almost a month since the contest started, and I still hadn’t figured out the plumbing. Given my frustration levels, I decided to scrap the whole CLS with SCWD system for the time being. Maybe some day in the future I’ll have another stab at it, but it just got to be too frustrating.

After staring at the tank for a while, I decided I could hook my hydor pump up externally. Just put some tubing going from the intake to the pump, and some from the pump back to the tank. To get some more random currents and diffuse things a bit, I put a hydor flo on the end. Naturally, I forgot to take a picture of the finished product before I moved the tank back against the wall.



Here it is from the front. The intake strainer is on the left, the hydor flo is on the right.



And here it is from one side. You can see the pump sitting on a towel to bring it to the right height…after all the cutting I had done with my vinyl tubes, the pieces left over were a bit too short. The hydor pump is pretty nice. Run externally, it seems to add maybe 1 degree of heat to the water, and while not ultra-silent, it is fairly quiet. I imagine it would be even quieter if run submerged.

I let everything run for a week to test temperatures and make absolutely sure nothing else was going to leak on me. To my delight, as long as the apartment temperature doesn’t get over about 77 degrees, the tank stays at ambient temperature with lights off, and at worst two degrees above ambient with the light on. I ran a temperature test with the halide light on for 12 hours and the temperature went from 76.5 to 78.5 degrees. I can’t ask for better than that! I did add a 50 watt visi-therm heater to bring up the night-time temperatures though, as I noticed they were getting quite low. I’m not worried about these temps being too low because I checked the current water temperatures out in the upper Keys, and they’re between 68 and 70 degrees.

Let There Be Life!

Tank somewhat stable, it was time for the fun part. The live rock arrived in the mail this Wednesday. It’s aquacultured rock from the Florida Keys.



This is about the best shot I could get today to show the colors and life on the rock. I need to look at my camera manual and see what I can do about white balance. With the 14K light on, everything comes out very blue for me. A master photographer I ain’t.

The rock is all spread out to help it get good water flow during curing. I’m not going to aquascape until that’s all done. This is 10 lbs. of rock, and though the pictures don’t show it too well, it does have some very nice nooks and crannies. The rock on the right has a really gorgeous shape that will be great for placing corals, and the piece second from the left is actually a flat, ledge-shaped piece that is tipped forward in this shot.

Florida rock isn’t known for its great shapes like Indonesian rock is. So why bother with it? Well, this is a Florida tank. Rock from this area is known for having great encrusting life on the outside, and this is pretty much met my expectations. The only thing I haven’t seen that I was hoping for were lots of colorful fan worms, but to give the vendor credit, I didn’t make a special request for rock with worms on it either. I simply asked for 3 or 4 rocks small enough for a 10 gallon tank, and this is perfect. I plan to add a few pieces of cured rock to this to help aquascape later on.

I’m only two days into the cycle, but here’s what I’ve seen on the rock so far:
Several types of encrusting sponges in shades of orange, tan, red, black and yellow.
Large and small brittle stars. The largest one was ripped nearly in half and if I hadn’t seen him walking around the tank, I would have thought he had died. But the sucker shows up every night to take a walk. So I’m going to leave him in and give him a chance for now.
Halimeda algae. Lots of it.
Dictyota algae
Caleurpa algae
About five different colors of coralline algae
Two kinds of bivalves
Two tiny encrusting corals. One may be dead; the other appears to be alive. Possibly Porites?
Worms, worms, worms! Sphagetti worms, bristle worms, peanut worms, and more.
Tunicates. I have a single big brown one and some pin-head sized bright orange ones all over two of the rocks.

So far no snails or larger crustaceans. Also no bad hitchhikers, knock on wood.

And here’s a closing shot that shows the nooks and crannies in the rock a bit better.



NEXT TIME: Drama! Excitement! Fluctuating ammonia levels! What exciting things lurk within the live rock? Will our brave brittle star pull through? Will our heroine learn to take photos that don’t look like all-actinic shots? Tune in to find out!



P.S.

distantfire:

I have very little clear tubing involved anymore, and it's not where light is hitting it. Hopefully I won't get too much algae buildup inside. But if I do, I do have a hose brush smile.gif It'll be good incentive to remember to clean the pump, too.


Charlie97

Thanks, I did get your PM, though I guess I'm replying a bit late! Unfortunately, the SCWD just didn't work out. I wasn't able to make plumbing that didn't leak. I may try again some other time.
Rene
Progress at Last

What a fun month this has been. While I waited for the rock to finish curing, I got a chance to study it better, and discovered a cerith snail hitchiker. And those brittle stars? I didn't see them for weeks, and then recenty, I've seen two of them. I had begun to give up hope and assume they were too badly injured to make it.

As soon as curing finished, I started to add the sandbed. It's going to be fairly deep to accomodate macroalgae and also the burrowing mantis shrimp I'm planning for this tank. This is what it looked like a few hours after I added the sand...and yes, I did rinse that sand!



I got my rockscape how I wanted it, two islands at either side, and a passageway through the middle. To deal with the deep sandbed, the rock is actually sitting securely on some eggcrate elevated off the bottom of the tank with PVC pipes. This was to keep it from getting buried in the deepish sand, or getting toppled due to burrowing creatures. It's very sturdy with lots of great viewing angles. Not too tall, not too short. That done, I transferred over some of the gorgonians from my 5.5 gallon tank where they've been waiting for quite some time. Adding corals clouded the water quite a bit, but was worth it. The first batch included:

Orange spiny sea rod X2 (Murecea elongata0
Yellow sea whip X2 (Pterogorgia citrina)
Purple frilly gorgonian X1 (Pseudopterogorgia spp.)
Teal blue zoanthids

Full tank shot as of 12-18 looked like this:



The tank top is covered right now with some eggcrate and plastic window screen to keep the corals from getting sunburned.



After that, I was able to add more zoanthids (bright green this time) and about eight colors of ricordea. It's all been waiting in my 5.5 for months. Lime green, teal, deep blue, orange-salmon, pale orange, golden, bright green, they're all in there. I also figured out where to put one of the gorgonians that had been stumping me.

Full tank shot as of 12-27:



I've taken a ton of pictures, and some of them are slowly getting better. My color balance still seems a little washed out and on the pink side, but I'm working it.

Further eye candy:





Last but not least, the favorite creature for my tank has arrived! Right now she's living in a 2.5 gallon tank so I don't drop a rock on her and squish her. Meet Chiquita, my Pseudosquilla ciliate mantis shrimp, all 1.5" of her!

Fishfreak218
GREAT TANK!
It really looks good.. why does it look purple?
Rene
'Cause I'm a lousy photographer! tongue.gif

I'm still struggling with the stupid white balance and my 14k bulb. Trust me, purple is better than the BRIGHT BLUE shots that looked all actinic.
DarkDevil
very nice looking tank, hope they grow out fast enough for you, good luck!
sandlot13
NICE! One of my favorite tanks now (cause of the your mantis!) get that white balance figured out on your camera and you will be golden! keep the pictures coming!
jeremai
Have you noticed any localized recession on the Muricea? I'm having half inch portions randomly die off, then the recession stops and seems to regrow. A week later, another random half inch section dies off. Can't figure it out.

Great looking tank. Fraggin the Pterogorgia any time soon? wink.gif
Rene
Well, it looks like one of the serpent starts managed to tick off one of the pistol shrimp last night. There was an arm-tip on the sandbed this morning after some furious popping last night laugh.gif It reminds me of my childhood...play nice or we start lopping off appendages!

Killed a bunch of tiny aiptasia. I made the mistake of letting them and valonia go uncontrolled too long in my 5.5. I won't make that mistake again. I plan on being a ruthless dictator.

I'm expecting a small order from FloridaPets this week, and I plan on adding a few more things from the 5.5. It may be time to play with the white-balance on the camera some more soon.

DarkDevil: Thank you, good luck to you as well! I honestly doubt I'm going to see a whole lot of growth from most of these creatures in a 3 month period. Some of the gorgonians have grown for me while in the holding tank, but neither them nor the rics have been fast growers for me. I'm going to have to depend on the few zoantharians in my tank for growth shots, and hope that's enough for the good people at n-r.com wink.gif

(P.S....the public wants more top-down shots of clams!)

sandlot13: Thanks! Good to see some love for the mantis wub.gif I've had N. wennerae before mantis got popular and I missed them so bad after I got rid of them, but I couldn't do without a cleanup crew. P. ciliata seemed just about perfect. I hope she stays yellow like that.

jeremai: Huh, no, I've not seen that on my Muricea. Those things have been pretty rock-solid for me, showing some very slight growth and near-continuous polyp extension. I feed the tank, but I haven't seen any real feeding response from them for sure though. But if yours was a lack of food thing, they wouldn't be receeding and then growing back again. How much current do you have them in? I something nearby stinging them maybe?

Hah, those Pterogorgia have done better for me than anything else, but it'll be a while before they need trimming wink.gif Thanks for the compliments!
Rene
Deadline Day

Coral deadline time, and I’ve added a few new things in the past month. Here’s what the tank has in it as of today, new additions in italics[i].

Plants:
Halimeda
[i]3 shaving brush plants


Corals:
1 teal ricordea
1 pale blue/lavender ricordea
1 lime green ricordea
1 bright green ricordea
1 solid orange ricordea
3 pink/salmon ricordea
3 gold/orange ricordea
1 teal Florida mushroom
about 4 red Florida mushrooms
3 hitchhiker sps, maybe porites
1 siderastrea starlet coral
2 bubble mushrooms
solid green Florida zoanthids
green bullseye Florida zoanthids
black center green Florida zoanthids
teal Florida zoanthids
blue with yellow ring Florida zoanthids
white Caribbean encrusting polyps
2 orange sea rods
2 yellow sea whips
1 purple frilly gorgonian

Invertebrates:
yellow mantis shrimp
porcelain crabs
feather duster worms
hitchhiker thorny oyster
brittle stars
harlequin serpent star
sponges and tunicates
3 astrea snails
3 cerith snails
4 nassarius snails
1 nerite snail

…I think that’s everything.

Now, photos!

Shrinking Ricordea
Rics on 12-27

Rics on 1-15

The colors haven’t changed, but on all the rics in my tank, I’m seeing much less polyp extension. I think it’s either too much light or too much flow. Looking back, I was seeing good extension until I ramped up the photoperiod and took off one of the screens shading the tank. I’m going to put a screen back on the tank and see if that helps; if not, I may need to look into a less powerful pump. On the bright side, you can clearly see a new mouth on the orange ric!

If anyone has any advice on the ric shrinkage, I’m all ears. sleep.gif

New ric, this one is a solid pale blue/lavender

Pink ric that looks to be splitting

Chiquita sitting by the gold rics, watching me take pictures


Unhappy bubble mushrooms. I just added these, and ripped one in the process.

New teal shroom.

New red shroom. Added today.

And her babies lower on a rock, accidentally fragged

The last baby, by one of the mystery corals. Do you know what it is?



(contd....)

(...contd.)

New blue zoanthids with a yellow ring around the mouth. I'm hoping these will color up, they were really reaching for light under old PC lights.
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15yelloweyes.jpg[/img]
New “bullseye” pattern green zoos
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15bullseye.jpg[/img]
And a shot of the teal zoos. They’re really a different color than the blue ones.
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15tealzoos.jpg[/img]
BRIGHT green zoos. No surprise here, but the picture doesn’t do them justice.
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15glowinggreens.jpg[/img]

Siderastrea coral. It was a three-polyp hitchhiker on the base of one of the gorgonians, slowly being killed. I put it on its own rock a few months ago and it is doing much better. [img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15starlet.jpg[/img]


Drumroll please!

…left side!
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15leftside.jpg[/img]
…right side!
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15rightside.jpg[/img]
…FTS!
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15fts.jpg[/img]
WarEagleNR88
Impressive! Clean, concise, striking. Exactly what a reef tank should be. Keep up the great work, Rene.
KMP
hat's off to you for the split rock aquascape. that is my idea of the ultimate arangement. i'm planning a 90 - 120 and that's what i intended to do. never seen it before in a small tank. very impressive!
sandlot13
great work!!! Im loving those teal zoos with the green ring around the mouth. where did you get those??? Awesome work, that aquascaping is awesome!!!
instrance
Very nice
Rene
Thanks for the compliments, everyone! I'm really happy with this tank and the aquascape. I do plan to add a few more things after the contest but I love the aquascape as well and don't plan to alter it at all. It should be exciting to see how it grows out and if it maintains that clean look.

KMP, thanks, it is an aquascape design I've always liked and I'm happy I went with it. I get great circulation, and I think it makes the tank look larger than a ten. Both of the rock structures sit on egg crate buried in the sand on PVC stilts so burrowing animals can't topple it. Doing something similar in a much larger tank holds the potential to be truly striking.

sandlot, those are some of my favorite zoos. I got them from an ebay vendor who moved out of the country, but that color combo can be found from florida collectors. www.sealifeinc.com has some now and then though I haven't ordered this color from them.
pico1
WOW! Lookin' good! I really like the 2 island look.
kinktao
great tank!
Rene
Fine Tuning

February has been a month of change for this tank, and I’m seeing some definite progress as the corals settle in.

First, I cut the flow down quite a bit in the tank. I never could get my Remora Nano to skim anything, so I finally pulled it out and noticed immediate better expansion of the ricordea in the area closest to it. That did it…the high flow was at least partially responsible for them not expanding like they should have, so I ordered a replacement pump and switched from 450 to 265 gph. The gorgonians have not seemingly been affected and the ricordea are doing better. A few of them dropped off their rocks before I switched pumps, and these are temporarily in a soap dish until I have time to fool with the tank some more. The tank looks more empty so it’s a little depressing, though nothing has actually died. The ones in the soap dish are expanding so well, I’m thinking about toying with the aquascape and giving the ricordea an especially low flow, lower light area all of their own. I probably won’t try anything like that until the contest is over though.

It’s not all bad, though. While the expansion on the ricordea hasn’t been terrific, they are growing!

My favorite orange one now has three mouths! It had one when I put it in the tank. I showed a photo a while back of it forming a second mouth, and I noticed while taking photos that it has a third one on the backside.


While taking pictures of that orange one, I noticed my teal one nearby has also grown another mouth.


The yellow circle zoanthids are also growing though I’m not getting much in the way of blue color out of them. They have never shown much blue color in my care, though they supposedly were that color once.


I have added one thing to the tank: a large leaf variety of Halimeda algae. I’ve been looking for it for some time now. Compare it to the regular sized plant on the right. You can also see my harlequin serpent star sitting under the heater here.


And last but not least, the refugium! With the exit of the remora skimmer, I wanted something to help remove some nutrients from the tank, and a vegetative filter sounded just right, so I made one out of some old Aquaclear filter parts. The chaeto is growing slowly but steadily.


Update delayed due to internet problems sad.gif
Dr. Daggett
Wow, I think you may have turned me on to gorgonians.... Love this tank! Great job!
sandlot13
still loving this tank.... wish i had my other tank set up for a mantis right now too!!!
Rene
Daggett: Thanks! They're really neat, and it's nice to have something different in the tank. The only hitch is that even photosynthetic ones require some feeding, and they like quite a bit of flow. But I put them under the HOB output in my last tank and they did just fine there. HTH!

Sandlot Aren't mantis shrimp great? I've had them on and off for about five years now. P. ciliata was my ideal since it isn't as hard on a cleanup crew, and I've been happy with that decision. Chiquita is -very- active and bold, and spends a good amount of time sitting in the open. I'll try to get an updated pic of her, but she's also retained that nice yellow/orange color.

I'm working on getting tank pictures tonight and tomorrow in preperation for the deadline. I have a new invert which I got about a month ago that I think everyone's going to love, but you'll have to wait and see. Some corals also got moved around a bit. I'll save a recap for my summary post, but I'm really happy with how this tank has turned out so far. Expect pictures soon.
Rene
Finishing Touches

March showed a lot of small tweaks to the tank, including rearranging some corals. I was able to give the group of three ricordea on the top right a lower-flow area by putting a branch of zoanthids to shield them, and the zoas seem to like it too. This is a color-accurate pic of my teal zoas too. It only took six months!


I also moved some of the ones on the right hand side around to give them lower flow, and am already seeing better expansion. The pink ric that was splitting has split fully and the extra ric fell off onto the sandbed, so I have it in a cup until I figure out where to put it.


The shaving brush plants have been slowly waning, but they’re sending up new growth. I’ve seen three new stalks and a fourth one today. Unfortunately, my mantis shrimp likes to rip the tops off and use them to reinforce her burrow!


And I finally got my hands on something I’ve been looking for for a long time. After having a black feather duster worm for over a year with no problems, I decided to try an Atlantic christmas tree worm. Fingers are crossed, but I’ve already maintained a similar-sized worm for long enough to think I’m doing something right. You can also see the black worm and the starlet coral in this shot.


Enjoy biggrin.gif
Rene
Summary Post

A Florida biotope tank has been rattling around in my brain for years now, and this contest came about at the perfect time to set one up. I wanted to concentrate on the beauty of native corals and offer something a little different than the typical nano livestock. Aside from needing a little bit of flow and feeding, this tank and the gorgonians in it have not been hard to maintain. Take another look at our beautiful and hearty “local” corals before deciding that the only interesting stuff comes from overseas!

Equipment List

Tank
10 gallon standard AGA aquarium

Lighting
20” 70 watt Sunpod metal halide system, stock 14 k bulb

Circulation and Filtration
Nano Remora with MaxiJet 900 (reason: did not produce skimmate)
Aquaclear 50, filled with LR rubble and chaeto
Closed Loop System with SCWD, powered by another MaxiJet 900 (reason: leaks around SCWD)
Closed loop system powered by Hydor pump (265 gph) with Hydor flo attachment

Temperature Control
Jager 50 watt heater
Visi-therm 50 watt heater

Livestock List

Plants
3 or 4 types of Halimeda algae
Caleurpa hitchhikers
6+ Shaving brush plants

Corals
9 Florida ricordea polyps (lime, green, orange, teal, blue, pink, golden orange)
5 Florida zoanthid colonies (solid mint green, mint bullseye, teal, blue with yellow ring, mint black center)
1 White encrusting zoanthid colony
2 Bubble mushrooms
6 Atlantic discosoma mushrooms (one teal, 5 burgundy)

Invertebrates
Yellow mantis shrimp, Pseudosquilla ciliate
Atlantic thorny oyster hitchhiker
Pink Christmas tree worm
Black featherduster worm
Sponges
Tunicates
Hitchhiker featherduster worms
Brittle stars
1 Harlequin serpent star
3 Astrea snails
3 Cerith snails
4 Nassarius snails
1 Nerite snail

Losses/Removed items
2 porcelain crabs (eaten by mantis shrimp)
1 ricordea polyps (blew off rocks and lost)
3 ricordea polyps (too much current, moved to another system until I get a chance to rework the rockwork)

Growth Sequences

All corals were added to the tank between December and January.

Pink ricordea January 15th

February 28th

March 31st


Red mushrooms on the right January 15th

March 31st


Yellow and blue zoanthids January 15th

March 31st

These grew from 16 polyps to more than 30 cool.gif

Green bullseye zoanthids and teal zoanthids January 15th

March 31st

Bullseyes went from 8 polyps to 15+ and teal zoos went from 6 to 11 polyps.



(...cont.)

Halimeda February 28th

March 31st
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/mar31halimeda.jpg[/img]
Also look at the FTS to see general algae growth in the system. No new plants were added after January with the exception of the large-leaf plant pictured above.

Shaving brush plants January 15th
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/Jan15plants.jpg[/img]
March 31st
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/Mar31plants.jpg[/img]
There are more plants here, but as noted elsewhere, they look scraggly because my mantis shrimp rips the top off and uses them in burrow construction. Sheesh.

Some other items that have grown for me that didn’t photograph well enough to show before and after pictures. My orange ricordea went from one to three mouths, and my teal ricordea grew a second mouth. Their most recent pictures are below.
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/feb28teal2mouth.jpg[/img]
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/mar31orangeric.jpg[/img]

My yellow gorgonian has grown as well. Growth on the other gorgonians has been hard to photograph even though I know it's there. Feeding seems to make all the difference with these guys.
December
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/dec27yellowgorg.jpg[/img]
March
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/mar31yellowgorg.jpg[/img]

(cont...)

FTS

November
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/finalplumbing.jpg[/img]

December 18th
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/fts1218.jpg[/img]

January 15th
[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/jan15fts.jpg[/img]

March 31st
(...contd.)

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/mar31fts.jpg[/img]

Take a look at the plant growth through the tank smile.gif

Other Pretty Pictures

In closing I’d like to leave you with a few nice shots that didn’t go anywhere else. This has been really fun competition, and watching what different people are able to create with limited time and similar systems has been fascinating. I've had an absolute blast and I'm happy I got the chance to participate. Thank you to all the nano-reef.com members who have stuck with it and supported the competition with their enthusiasm, and congratulations to all the competitors who made it to the end. Good luck!

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/finalzoas.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/finalduster.jpg[/img]

[img]http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/peregryn88/finalchiquita.jpg[/img]
Mr. Grinch
I can't beleive that no one has replied but you have a great tank and I really like your idea from the start. If you didn't already know those yellow and blue zoanthids are a very desired morph called blue or purple hornets (or at least they look like them). With the success you had I'd say your into some $ smile.gif
Uhuru
for some reason most of the pics aren't showing I have to copy and paste the address in a new window...

but yeah tank looks great! love the gorgs... sorry if I missed it somewhere but what are you feeding them?
arwndsh
Guys this thread is 2 years old. I doubt you'll get a reply.
Rene
QUOTE (arwndsh @ Jun 29 2009, 10:43 AM) *
Guys this thread is 2 years old. I doubt you'll get a reply.


LOL. True. I was showing this thread to someone at work today because I couldn't remember where I'd put pictures of this tank, and was shocked to see new posts.

The pictures should all work still. I'm not really clear on why some of them are showing up only as URLs.

I've moved to a different state and this tank was taken down a while ago. Those yellow and blue zoanthids were gorgeous but I no longer have them. They appeared to be quite hearty and fairly fast growing when I did have them. Ironically, they showed their best colors in systems lit with less intense light. They looked more blue to me under PCs than they ever did under halides.

All the gorgonians in that tank were photosynthetic and rather hearty. Two things they liked were fairly strong flow and feeding. I mostly fed them dried cyclopeeze, which they had a visible feeding response to. Several of the gorgonians had semi-transparent polyps so it was possible to see the cyclopeeze in their guts after they'd eaten it. They also had a feeding response to DT's oyster eggs, but I couldn't see those in the gut.

For some reason, ricordea did not do well in this tank. I don't know if it was some sort of alleopathy or if they flow was just too strong. They all eventually shrank and detached from the rocks. If I were to do it again, I'd do gorgonians or ricordea but possibly not both...I think it'd allow me to figure out what went wrong. Possibly I could arrange currents in some other tank so the gorgs got enough and the rics weren't overwhelmed, but for that to work a larger tank really might be best.
opipe73
Very nice tank. I like the look and the Florida biotope. Keep up the good work. smile.gif
johnmaloney
brushes wane as they spread, and then they grow back once the viability of the new groths is established, very cool that way that they risk sacrificing themselves for the new growths. One way to ease the pain is to trim the needles on the old brush, so they dont drop in your tank, and then wait it out. It will likely regrow the needles and allow the new sprouts to grow on their own.
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