calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I’ve decided to compile my build into a new thread with less talk, and more pictures so you don’t have to read through 58 pages. If you would like to read through all the trials and failures of this build click here. Here’s where it all began, with an idea!!! Construction of the stand/wall begins as we work to finish the basement, please note final framing before dry wall is not show, there is more faming than shown: Floors are installed and the acrylic cutting has started. Here are 8’ and 4’ pieces placed end to end. So, when a piece of acrylic just isn’t long enough, here is how to weld acrylic end to end: First tape off the ends of the pieces… For those who need a visual: Cut off the excess: Clamp down one side: Note the gap for the WeldOn 42: 42 Gun, just like a caulking gun, only about 125 times more expensive; The 42 cartridge has 2 tubes (2-part epoxy) combined into a single cartridge and the long tip is for mixing the 2-parts together before they come out. Place tape under the gap to keep the 2-part from running out: Applying the 42: Squeeze the pieces together: And un-tape one side to see how the weld turned out: Another angle: Tape removed: Glue is setup, it sets up completely clear: These drips are rock hard: From the side, before sanding out the seam: And just to show how strong WeldOn 42 is: How to sand acrylic, you can use this for scratch removal as well: Initial sanding with 120 grit (for scratch removal you shouldn’t need to use anything as rough as 220): 200 grit dry: 220 wet: 400 wet: 600 wet: What it looks like while sanding with water: Toweled dry: 1500 wet: 1800 wet: 2400 wet: 3200 wet: After 3200 is 3600, 4000, 6000, 8000, and 12000 if you can get to 4000 you can probably buff out the haze without going higher. Here is what I buff with: Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 ½ buffed: Completely buffed: For those who really need to see how to sand here… Please note you change direction after every grit and sand until all previous sanding lines have been removed: 400 Grit: 600 Grit: 1500 Grit: 1800 Grit: It wasn’t tough to cut, just tough to keep it against the fence for 12’ Overflow is cut: Bent to shape: And welded to the end: Bulkheads fit just right: Starting to look like pieces of a tank: How to cut the opening for the bracing, here are two methods: The first method is without a template the second is with a template. First, mark out your area... Next, drill out each corner with a 1-2" radius (2-4" diameter) hole saw, this step is important as the curve really strengthens the bracing. I've seen many tops crack in these corners when they are cut to a square or small radius. Next is to router from tangent to tangent along the edge of your access hole. First is clamp a straight edge alone the line to give your router a guide, or you can move it in a little for a quick rough cut and allow for an easy and clean final pass. Rough cut: Final Pass: Do this for all 4 sides: And you’re done: The second method is with a jig. First you have to build the jig, and this is done by using the same method above only with MDF or another suitable material. Then position the jig where you want the access hole. Drill a pilot hole large enough to drop your router bit into: Here is the router bit I use... It's a flush trim bit, but with the bearing mounted on the bottom instead. I run an initial pass as a rough cut and then a final pass to remove the last of the material. This final pass reduces chipping and heat on the bit as there is less material to remove. and all done: Be warned... I vacuumed between each shot, as you, your router, your acrylic, and work space will be covered in this! And after 6 of these plus overflow opening the top was finished: Building the tank: For pins I use 2 strands of copper wires, twisted together. Clamp the end at a 90* angle, and ensure it's also 90* to the edge. Space your material with the wire pins and apply your solvent (I use WeldOn 3; in our climate 4 evaporates too quickly). I'm using a 16g syringe in the pictures but I use a bottle for the other welds and would recommend a bottle over a syringe, as I don't like the inconsistency of the plunger. Sometimes it's easy to push; sometime it's like a rock. Once it's soaked and pins are pulled I apply 2 clamps. If you are able to lay your setup on a flat surface where it is evenly supported you should not need any clamps. As this is hanging off the end of the stand the clamps are in place to support the tank from underneath. I don't tighten them much; just enough to keep them from falling and bring the bottom snug to the side panel. After 4 welds you should have something that looks like this, the pieces in the middle are to support the acrylic and prevent it from sagging: Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Top and bottom are applied using the same pin method and with shims and stryo to ensure a level surface during the bonding. I place pins ever 6-12 inches along with a shim and then shim until the pin is snug and won’t fall out. Apply your solvent (this distance took 2 of us to apply it all in approx 1:30) and pull the pins starting at same place you started the solvent. The larger your needle the fast the solvent will flow, the two of us used 16ga needles each. Unfortunately the stand wasn’t perfectly flat so I ended up having to shim in a ¾” piece of ply to help support the tank evenly and then placed a ½” piece of foam over the ply. Next was to drill the tank for the closed loop, drilling around all the supports under the tank: In the overflow, the hole on the left will feed the recir skimmer, the hole on the right is for excess water that doesn’t make it into the skimmer (this will ensure bubbles to not form in the skimmer feed) and the center hole is a pass through for the wires to the canopy. Here is what it looks like from underneath plumbed, the valve on the drain is to ensure I am able to keep constant pressure on the skimmer feed line without getting bubbles. Due to all the layers, it was a chore to drill all the holes for the circulation. 1/2" OSB on bottom, 1/2" drywall, spray foam to level the tank, 3/4" oak ply, 1/2" foam, 1/2" acrylic. Again, each hole took a while... The Closed Loop is plumbed through the bottom of the tank: 5 drains (one is now plugged leaving 4 drains) feed the bottom pipe which is (2") w/ 5 1" bushings and nips, the upper pipe is the return line (1.5") w/ 4 1" bushings and nips. The 2” pipe feeds the dart at the end and is returned through the 1.5” pipe which in turn feeds all the loc-lines. Connections to and from the tank: Loc-lines installed: The tank will require 2 sumps plumbed together to allow me to place them under the tank. Each opening is only 36” wide so that is the limit on each sump. I installed styrofoam on top of the concrete followed by a shower plan liner (PVC Sheet) to catch any drips or leaks. Then put in the sumps: Plumbed together: ATO will be handled by this float valve and fed by the 15g water barrel on its side: Here is the assembly of one of the sumps The ventilation will be handled by 3 of these PC fans: Installed here: Pulling air from the opposite end of the stand to help keep fresh air around the sump and control humidity. This vent also has the 3 IC660 ballast installed behind it, so the fresh air helps to keep them cool. The return pipe was the hardest to solve for, but eventually solved by building a chase (which should have been built before the tank was installed, but turned out okay working around the tank). Unfortunately it cuts off a lot of the end view: The piece in the center of each door frame work is attached with pocket screws which will allow me to remove it should I need to for sump/equipment work. Utility room is behind the louvered door keeping a 55g barrel of RODI water and my 15g water change barrel out of site: Link to comment
evilc66 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is like tank pr0n. Keep going! Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 FTS during filling from RO/DI And a test of the CL: And a diagram to show all the flow through the tank: Again here's the two drains (the black pipe in the center is for wires to the pendant). The one on the left is entirely underwater to prevent bubbles from getting into the skimmer, the one on the right is a durso which is a back up to the skimmer drain. Another below shot: Misc Equipment feed from the return pump: The canopy is under construction: The 1" pipe is packed with wires, in-fact I had to move the connections into the pendant because the thicker wire I bought wouldn't fit! 32 wires in all! Bulb Test: Gives you an idea of how it’s all wired, this times 3: And all wired up: The system running: And some of the corals currently in the tank: And my Gigas: Well, that concludes my 1 year summary, this project began just over 1 year ago, a lot has happened, but a lot more work is still to be done. Thanks everyone who has followed along on my build and for all your support. I hope in some way I was able to help you in your own reefing experience! -Eric Link to comment
CL_ Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Calvin, you are truly inspirational. I followed your build at rc for almost a year. You started it last summer, didn't you? I deleted my comment that was in between your posts so that you could have them all un-interupted. Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thanks, foofooree, I did start the original thread just over 1 year ago, the first test weld joining end to end was done April 14th 2008. Link to comment
edge0310 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 i am thoroughly impressed and inspired by the build of this incredible tank. i cant wait to see how it matures and develops. Link to comment
ajmckay Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Wow... and to think I already read all 50 something pages on your other thread a few months ago... This was waaaaaay easier! Although there are a lot of things covered in more detail in the long thread. Calvin, this tank is awesome! Keep it up and keep us updated. Link to comment
owned162 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 As I've said in the original thread, this tank is amazing! Keep up the great work Calvin ! Link to comment
Azfishguy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 I got a quick question for ya. After all the work joining the two pieces of acrylic can you see the seam and how much time did you put into that alone? Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Thank you very much for the compliments everyone! I got a quick question for ya. After all the work joining the two pieces of acrylic can you see the seam and how much time did you put into that alone? Yes you can still see the seams, unfortunately I don't think there is a way to completely hide them. As you can see in even this pic, acrylic seams are impossible to hide, but they can still be transparent. When more people come over they don't even notice the seam until I point it out to them. It stands out to me as I did it and know where it is, but to most it's all 1 piece. The seam runs through the left whale sharks dorsal fin if you don't notice it... Link to comment
calvin415 Posted April 30, 2009 Author Share Posted April 30, 2009 Oh, and time it took? It took 48 hours to join the pieces and needed to do this 4 times (2 fronts, top, and bottom). Actual time spend joining is probably 1 hour to prep the pieces and apply the solvent (4 hours total) and then I spent about 6 hours over 2 days to sand and polish each piece (2 sides)... So that's 4 hours to weld, and another 24 hours of sanding and then assembly time... Was it a pain? Sure, sanding is never fun. Was it worth it? 24 hours of work, plus leaving a seam, saving thousands and thousands over a custom cast piece of acrylic, you be the judge... I would still rather have 1 piece, but I can't justify spending thousands of bones for a 140 gallon tank. Link to comment
ef4life Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This tank is nuts I have to say the best diy tank ever Link to comment
Paleoreef103 Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 This is awesome. Oh so awesome. Honestly I almost feel bad posting on this thread as I don't want to clutter the awesomeness. Link to comment
Azfishguy Posted April 30, 2009 Share Posted April 30, 2009 Well it looks great! And i couldn't justify spending that much on a tank if you can do it yourself. I was just wondering because I've been working on getting scratches out of one of my customers tank and just got to thinking about your build. Plus it would be sweet to build something like this but i have any where to build something so colossal. Link to comment
calvin415 Posted May 1, 2009 Author Share Posted May 1, 2009 This tank is nuts I have to say the best diy tank ever LOL! Thanks! This is awesome. Oh so awesome. Honestly I almost feel bad posting on this thread as I don't want to clutter the awesomeness. Oh don't worry, the pics are done; for now... The purpose of this was to document a lot of DIY steps all in one place... I'll be breaking up the different parts and some not show here into new topics for Chris, so feel free to ask any DIY questions you like in here. Well it looks great! And i couldn't justify spending that much on a tank if you can do it yourself. I was just wondering because I've been working on getting scratches out of one of my customers tank and just got to thinking about your build. Plus it would be sweet to build something like this but i have any where to build something so colossal. Thanks, yeah price was my draw back too so I decided to build my own. Hopefully you are able to see how simple it is to re-surface acrylic, not easy, but simple. Link to comment
evilc66 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I seriously want one of those rics. I have never seen colors like that. Link to comment
plainrt Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 So nice.Glad to see it all worked out. Link to comment
gunguy05 Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 I am speechless.. truly amazing work! You make me want to empty my bank account !! If i had the room I would. Can't wait to see the rest of the build! Link to comment
The Propagator Posted May 1, 2009 Share Posted May 1, 2009 MUST ... SEE..... FTS FULL OF CORAL ... TO ... FEED MY ADDICTION TO YOUR TANK !!! Link to comment
MinibowMatt Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Eric- This is amazing! I have been out of reefing for about a year now, and I had no idea you were undertaking such a task! You have done an amazing job, and you should be very proud of your work. I rarely check any reef sites anymore, but I am glad I have. Congrats on an amazing tank! Email me sometime-- minibowmatt@gmail Matt Link to comment
kenzo09 Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool Link to comment
murphy_5 Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 EPIC! DIY project!!!! Best ever hands down! Link to comment
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