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RedSeaMax vs JBJ 28g HQI
Red Sea Max34 or 28g Nano Cube HQI
Which one is better for the money?
Red Sea Max34 [ 57 ] ** [37.50%]
28g Nano Cube HQI [ 95 ] ** [62.50%]
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NuNano
post Jan 17 2007, 05:15 PM
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With both these tanks tipping the $$$ scale of $500, which one is a better choice?
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post Jan 17 2007, 05:22 PM
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If the JBJ has no heat issues, I'd go with the MH in the JBJ.


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post Jan 17 2007, 05:25 PM
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I dont like the skimmer in the JBJ, and it worries me that the stand for it comes with a special "section" made to fit a chiller in it... I think theres going to be heat problems..


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post Jan 17 2007, 05:58 PM
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well you gotta admit, that you rather have space for one than not have one when you do need it. just like they say you rather have a condom and not need it then not have one when you need it. just my 2cent. money wise i believe jbj is the better price for all that equipment. can't go wrong.


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post Jan 17 2007, 06:01 PM
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i like the JBJ.

there probably will be heat problems, but at least you know you have a special compartment just for the chiller. lol

so there's a $100 price gap between the two (the JBJ being cheaper), just spend the money you "saved" on a chiller.

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post Jan 17 2007, 06:42 PM
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JBJ may have heat issues, but that's fixable. I'm not so sure how fixable all the built-in stuff in the MAX is in comparison... JBJ gets my vote on this, but time will definitely tell.


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post Jan 17 2007, 07:08 PM
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Any of you like the skimmer in the JBJ better ?? I personally wouldnt want to change wooden air stones every month....

The RSM has thicker glass, holds more water, looks better, wouldnt need a chiller, etc... I dunno. Im sure time will tell, I just still think the RSM is the best "stock" all in one.... cool.gif

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post Jan 17 2007, 08:34 PM
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what about the fact the jbj has an open back compartment with all the filter equipent - will this not dissipate heat?? red sea is totally enclosed from what I know
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post Jan 17 2007, 08:38 PM
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OK, so far here are the results and a quick break down..

Red Sea Max34 ( 1 vote / 12.5%)
JBJ 28g HQI ( 6 votes / 87.50%)

Key Comparison Factors:

Heat Issues: Sounds like the JBJ 28g HQI may have higher heat issues due to the metal halide in the hood. But they do offer a compartment for a chiller.
The RSM may also have heat issues as well since their website also states an area for a "chiller pump". I think overall many of these small all-in-one tanks may have heat concerns. I read on many of these threads about Nano Cubes, Aqua Pods, and Bio Cubes already having heat concerns even with less light than both of these higher powered systems.

Protein Skimmer: The RSM includes an integrated venturi skimmer which is more effective than the counter current in the JBJ. Changing air-stones can also be a hassle in the JBJ. I've also seen some bad reviews on the PRIZM skimmer but I think the RSM wins in this category.

Price: The JBJ HQI is cheaper by $100 but it is also smaller by 6 gallons than the RSM. But overall it has (2) key features that are different.. first the MH and second the wavemaker. IMO, a better value if size isn't as important

Glass Thickness: The RSM wins here with 8mm and the JBJ 28g HQI 6mm.
But I don't think it will be a problem since the 29g Biocube is also 6mm. But I will have to agree that the 8mm does feel more reassuring.
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post Jan 18 2007, 01:22 AM
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.Hi all

Red Sea MAX skimmer is a new developed "turbo injector" skimmer with specially designed comb impeller that produce air/water mixture ratio of 1: 4 (300 l/h air with 1200 l/h water).

The MAX cabinet incloudes chiller compartment that provides enough space for even 1/4 HP chiller.
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post Jan 18 2007, 01:29 AM
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nobody ever realizes that finnex is a great tank, if not better than either one of these, id go with the Mtank 32 with or without the MH upgrade


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post Jan 18 2007, 07:49 AM
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Few MAX images:


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bourbon
post Jan 18 2007, 10:32 AM
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AGAIN the RedSea Max is WAY WAY WAY overpriced and UNDER light. Beautiful looking tank but my God you can get an aquapod 24 with 150w mh for $340 add on a protein skimmer great quality and you're still <$500. Red sea has to get with the program if they want to sell any units to knowledgeable buyers!!!!

My immediate suggestion for them, throw in additional 150w mh bulb for this price.
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post Jan 18 2007, 05:02 PM
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You can't have a crocea under the max's stock lighting! sleep.gif What happened to the black background?
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post Jan 20 2007, 12:14 AM
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I'd buy the Red Sea MAX in a heartbeat...if the lighting wasn't what it is. I'd own one by now if they'd gone with T5 HO or MH. The 2x55w PCs though - what a disappointment, especially for $599


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post Jan 20 2007, 09:34 AM
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QUOTE(pico1 @ Jan 18 2007, 06:02 PM) *
You can't have a crocea under the max's stock lighting! sleep.gif What happened to the black background?


My buddy has has his Crocea in his 55 gallon for over 4 years with PC lighting and has had ZERO issues with him...... I have one in my BC29 with PC lighting and have had zero issues with him..... Why couldnt you keep one under T5 lighting ??

QUOTE(annamarie421 @ Jan 20 2007, 01:14 AM) *
I'd buy the Red Sea MAX in a heartbeat...if the lighting wasn't what it is. I'd own one by now if they'd gone with T5 HO or MH. The 2x55w PCs though - what a disappointment, especially for $599


They are T5's arent they ??? Said right on the nanotuners sight that it had T5's... maybe nanotuners site is wrong ??


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post Jan 21 2007, 02:45 AM
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Hi all

Regular power compact lighting has a tube diameter of 6/8” which is known as T6

T5 lighting has a smaller tube diameter (5/8”) which gives the higher intensity output.

We have had special power compact tubes produced for us with the T5 diameter tube instead of the regular T6 diameter in order to get a better light intensity.

The special T5 Power Compact format has allowed us to provide 55W of light in a smaller footprint than the equivalent (2 x 24W) regular T5 tubes would provide. We are using an electronic ballast to power the PC’s which guarantees the performance. This combined with the high quality Hammertone reflector provides a true Reef Spec lighting for the Max.

I apologize if our product description is confusing and hope that the above answers your enquiry.
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post Jan 21 2007, 03:13 AM
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Hi all

Regular power compact lighting has a tube diameter of 6/8” which is known as T6

T5 lighting has a smaller tube diameter (5/8”) which gives the higher intensity output.

We have had special power compact tubes produced for us with the T5 diameter tube instead of the regular T6 diameter in order to get a better light intensity.

The special T5 Power Compact format has allowed us to provide 55W of light in a smaller footprint than the equivalent (2 x 24W) regular T5 tubes would provide. We are using an electronic ballast to power the PC’s which guarantees the performance. This combined with the high quality Hammertone reflector provides a true Reef Spec lighting for the Max.

I apologize if our product description is confusing and hope that the above answers your enquiry.

p.s.

The Tridacna corcea in the above MAX, showed a growth rate of 1.2 in. a year.
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post Jan 21 2007, 01:15 PM
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QUOTE(RedSeaTech @ Jan 21 2007, 04:13 AM) *
p.s.

The Tridacna corcea in the above MAX, showed a growth rate of 1.2 in. a year.


Guess that answers the you cant have a clam under that stock lighting. happy.gif


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post Jan 21 2007, 04:00 PM
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Red Sea Tech,

I am considering the Red Sea Max. My question concerns the lighting and since I am some what new to this, I am not sure where the lighting on this tank stands in regards to what corals can I keep and what would not do well with this lighting.

Thanks.
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