Kfmmartin19 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 NEW Acropora Spp. Wow. Where'd u get that? And if u don't mind, for how much?? Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Wow. Where'd u get that? And if u don't mind, for how much?? Glad you like it. Comes from LFS Canada, this is a bali coral and I paid 60 for it. I am getting ready to rebuild my reef after AEFW's Link to comment
Kfmmartin19 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Glad you like it. Comes from LFS Canada, this is a bali coral and I paid 60 for it. I am getting ready to rebuild my reef after AEFW's U live in Canada, eh? My LFS doesn't get any nice SPS...just a buncha cheap brown birdsnests and green slimers... Anyway, very nice piece, and good price! Link to comment
neuwave Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 It almost looks like you never had aefw in the first place. The tort looks like it coming back really fast. Good job. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 It almost looks like you never had aefw in the first place. The tort looks like it coming back really fast. Good job. Thanks neuwave, I am getting this reef back in order slowly, hope to have a new FTS soon. Link to comment
neuwave Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Thanks neuwave, I am getting this reef back in order slowly, hope to have a new FTS soon. Don't keep us waiting too long. Can't wait to see all your new additions in one shot. I'm just getting thru anther round of aefw since 2011. Even though I dipped every and any frag I bought. I bought a few frags since then so I have no idea from what source. They hit the same mili as last time. But polyp extension is back and the red base is coming back. Slowly but surely. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Don't keep us waiting too long. Can't wait to see all your new additions in one shot. I'm just getting thru anther round of aefw since 2011. Even though I dipped every and any frag I bought. I bought a few frags since then so I have no idea from what source. They hit the same mili as last time. But polyp extension is back and the red base is coming back. Slowly but surely. The genius who invents a way to eradicate these AEFW's one day is gonna get rich, there going to get my money for sure. Hope you have them under control, I understand it is difficult to get these buggers out of the tank completely. Link to comment
Nano sapiens Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Looks like a very healthy Acro! May it grow and prosper! Link to comment
metrokat Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Looks like a very healthy Acro! May it grow and prosper! +1 Link to comment
neuwave Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 The genius who invents a way to eradicate these AEFW's one day is gonna get rich, there going to get my money for sure. Hope you have them under control, I understand it is difficult to get these buggers out of the tank completely. Ya I had them a year ago. Got rid of them but I couldn't resist buying new coral and then their back. I just gotta keep up the dipping and egg scraping. Possible a wrasse in the near future, not as a solution but to help and personal want. Lol trying to find a golden rhomboid wrasse pair. (Well maybe more for personal enjoyment than aefw). They are gorgeous. Your telling me! 1 bottle of real aefw solution and you be rolling in dough. Wish I had the room to start a mini laboratory to test out different methods and products. Maybe stumble across something. Or flat out luck. Lol Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Looks like a very healthy Acro! May it grow and prosper! Thanks Nano sapiens +1 Thanks Kat Ya I had them a year ago. Got rid of them but I couldn't resist buying new coral and then their back. I just gotta keep up the dipping and egg scraping. Possible a wrasse in the near future, not as a solution but to help and personal want. Lol trying to find a golden rhomboid wrasse pair. (Well maybe more for personal enjoyment than aefw). They are gorgeous. Your telling me! 1 bottle of real aefw solution and you be rolling in dough. Wish I had the room to start a mini laboratory to test out different methods and products. Maybe stumble across something. Or flat out luck. Lol That really sucks, I hope this is not the case for me, can't handle another set back with this reef. I am still hoping this Zeovit Flatworm Stop elixir will keep them from flourishing at very least. Im still dosing it. I will be adding some fish soon, thinking about a wrasse, undecided which one, something reef safe. I think the answer for AEFW lies in the wild, something must keep it in check otherwise we would be loosing coral reefs from it, and that's not the case. They multiply fast enough to become epidemic numbers in a relatively short time, but not in the wild it seems. Impossible to study in the wild, you would have to introduce AEFW to a coral, then set up a underwater video camera on the coral, then watch what comes to eat the worms. Okay maybe not impossible, but difficult. Link to comment
neuwave Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 That really sucks, I hope this is not the case for me, can't handle another set back with this reef. I am still hoping this Zeovit Flatworm Stop elixir will keep them from flourishing at very least. Im still dosing it. I will be adding some fish soon, thinking about a wrasse, undecided which one, something reef safe. I think the answer for AEFW lies in the wild, something must keep it in check otherwise we would be loosing coral reefs from it, and that's not the case. They multiply fast enough to become epidemic numbers in a relatively short time, but not in the wild it seems. Impossible to study in the wild, you would have to introduce AEFW to a coral, then set up a underwater video camera on the coral, then watch what comes to eat the worms. Okay maybe not impossible, but difficult. Ya it wasn't something I was expecting after last year run in. Agreed, that their reproductive rate is fast so there has to be a natural control. It may take a while before find such creature. But a wrasse is definitely a good start. Link to comment
buddythelion Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Always a treat to swing by this thread! Link to comment
albertthiel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 NEW Acropora Spp. Wow those are real nice pieces indeed ... good luck with them ... Link to comment
got2envy Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Sorry to hear about the AEFW's. My friend bought a wild colony and the AEFW's spread like crazy in his tank...he started dosing this and they are completely gone now. Zeovit Flatworm Stop http://www.aquacave.com/ZeoVit-FlatwormStop-P3563.aspx I don't know if you have tried this product but I have seen his reef and it is very healthy. I love that yellow acro Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Sorry to hear about the AEFW's. My friend bought a wild colony and the AEFW's spread like crazy in his tank...he started dosing this and they are completely gone now. Zeovit Flatworm Stop http://www.aquacave.com/ZeoVit-FlatwormStop-P3563.aspx I don't know if you have tried this product but I have seen his reef and it is very healthy. I love that yellow acro Thanks got2envy, I have a thread running that answers your question : http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=303005 Ya it wasn't something I was expecting after last year run in. Agreed, that their reproductive rate is fast so there has to be a natural control. It may take a while before find such creature. But a wrasse is definitely a good start. Agreed Always a treat to swing by this thread! A pleasure to have you drop by Wow those are real nice pieces indeed ... good luck with them ... Thanks Albert, I am inspecting them with a magnifying glass daily, I'm a bit paranoid these days. I lost some corals to AEFW as you know, I just couldn't look at my reef, it looked so bare. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 So the DIY MP10 bearing replacement is done and was successful. I started a thread for those of you that may be needing to do the same repair on your MP10 one day. Here it is : MP10 Dry Side Bearing Replacement (DIY Project) Link to comment
steely185 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I agree that a lot of elements are in play in coral color. Just for background purposes I keep calcium and alk in check using a calcium reactor but also run biopellets and GFO to run low nutrients/phosphates. I may have done one water change in the span of time for these pictures showing color development so some trace elements may have been reduced. Nutrients were still reduced and a noticeable drop in algae was observed over the two month span. This coral was sold to me as a A. chesterfieldensis but I believe it was not identified correctly. I believe it is more likely A. Samoensis which is besides the point. You can keep nitrates, phosphates, alk and calcium all in check like I do but sometimes they are just going to change. Trace elements and amino acids have a lot to do with minor color changes but they can also be pretty dangerous to toy with in a tank. Not as much is known on what levels of what trace elements to maintain and they are harder to test for in an aquarium. There are articles out there but there is also a lot of questionable correlation with measured levels of trace elements and colors achieved. I believe light is more of a factor in how a coral will change colors. I think some of the mixed results on coral color observed using LEDs and different light spectrums kind of demonstrates this point. The store I purchased this coral from in August had poor lighting that looked more like 2 year old dim 10k halides. The store also had noticeable issues with nutrients/phosphates based off the browned out corals and algae observed in their tanks. I put this coral in a high flow area and low in the tank under new 250watt radium 20K's. You can see over the months how the coral becomes a brilliant green and nice boom in growth as well. I attribute this more to lighting than trace elements/aminos. The other reason I say this is that Acropora Samoensis usually grows on upper reef slopes where the spectrum of light is not as blue as some of the lower regions. A lot of this species is a brighter but more pale color (if that makes sense) when it is imported (take a look on diver's den for examples) and obtains more of a dark color to the body in after some time in aquariums. I think color is largely indicative of low nutrients and lighting conditions (spectrum and par based on region of growth). Mid August when purchased, pale yellow Few weeks later, turning more green Mid October Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Steely185, Great colour progression shots of your acro, you can back off dosing aminos and trace elements for a while, do regular water changes, and you should see the colour change back slowly. When it gets yellow again you can start dosing them again, slowly Link to comment
steely185 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't dose aminos or any trace elements, just alk/calcium as part of my calcium reactor. I plan on picking up my water change schedule but I'm a skeptic that it will effect the color. The other possibility is that the coral was a naturally green coral to begin with and lost color in the store aquariums due to poor lighting and high nutrients. On a side note this colony was a maricultured coral and has it's own acropora crab living in it. Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 I don't dose aminos or any trace elements, just alk/calcium as part of my calcium reactor. I plan on picking up my water change schedule but I'm a skeptic that it will effect the color. The other possibility is that the coral was a naturally green coral to begin with and lost color in the store aquariums due to poor lighting and high nutrients. On a side note this colony was a maricultured coral and has it's own acropora crab living in it. If it was A.chesterfieldensis it should be yellow to yellow-green. It does not look to be that species to me, however it is often hard to tell one species from another, unless you look at the skeleton under a microscope (only possible by fragging a bit of the coral then bleaching it to expose the skeleton). If you are not dosing amino acids or elements into your tank then it is likely lighting or nutrients at play with your colour. Excess in nutrients generally produces a browning or dulling of colours. From the looks of your pictures I would guess that this acropora spp. is green by nature. It is in fact displaying it's true colour now under your better lighting. When you got it, given the conditions you described it came from, the yellowing may have been caused by poor spectrum and maybe nutrients. To me the coral looks in good shape. A bit dark, but just fine. Link to comment
Bello Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wow, that's an impressive MP10 fix! Hopefully, I won't HAVE to use it, very cool! Link to comment
albertthiel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 If it was A.chesterfieldensis it should be yellow to yellow-green. It does not look to be that species to me, however it is often hard to tell one species from another, unless you look at the skeleton under a microscope (only possible by fragging a bit of the coral then bleaching it to expose the skeleton). If you are not dosing amino acids or elements into your tank then it is likely lighting or nutrients at play with your colour. Excess in nutrients generally produces a browning or dulling of colours. From the looks of your pictures I would guess that this acropora spp. is green by nature. It is in fact displaying it's true colour now under your better lighting. When you got it, given the conditions you described it came from, the yellowing may have been caused by poor spectrum and maybe nutrients. To me the coral looks in good shape. A bit dark, but just fine. You probably saw and read this article but if not here is the link : http://reefbuilders.com/2008/09/03/guide-o...e-vivid-bright/ Deals with colors but the comments on it are "mixed" however it does point out some good suggestions and reasons for certain colors and changes. And another one that may be of interest : http://indigootter.wordpress.com/2009/06/0...ps-coral-color/ Link to comment
NanoTopia Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Wow, that's an impressive MP10 fix! Hopefully, I won't HAVE to use it, very cool! Thanks Bello, I hope you don't have to either but if that day comes, it's not that hard to do. You probably saw and read this article but if not here is the link : http://reefbuilders.com/2008/09/03/guide-o...e-vivid-bright/ Deals with colors but the comments on it are "mixed" however it does point out some good suggestions and reasons for certain colors and changes. And another one that may be of interest : http://indigootter.wordpress.com/2009/06/0...ps-coral-color/ Thanks for the links Albert, I had read the first one a few months ago. This article and suggestions are in keeping with Zeovit methodology. I had not read the second article. If you place a coral frag that has browned out but otherwise healthy into a tank with all the right parameters (light, low nutrients, elements), it will colour up as the progression shots show in the article. I have purchased corals that were brown for cheap and watched them colour up in my system within a few weeks. Make for a nice surprise! Thanks again Christine Link to comment
albertthiel Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Thanks for the links Albert, I had read the first one a few months ago. This article and suggestions are in keeping with Zeovit methodology. I had not read the second article. If you place a coral frag that has browned out but otherwise healthy into a tank with all the right parameters (light, low nutrients, elements), it will colour up as the progression shots show in the article. I have purchased corals that were brown for cheap and watched them colour up in my system within a few weeks. Make for a nice surprise! Thanks again Christine Yes indeed and I think a lot of hobbyists who have done so have had the same outcome (good) as long as the lighting used and the current and all other parameters will as they needed to be ... Glad I found one you did "not" read as I know that you do a lot of research and have probably found tons of articles more than I have :-) ..... :-) Link to comment
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